- Richard Warman's Covert Alias:
- Axetogrind
Used for:
Infiltration of the "neo-Nazi"
Vanguard News Network (VNNForum) and posted 33 different messages,
including engaging people who laid a CHRC complaint against.
The Vanguard News Network (VNN) Describes itself
on the opening page as "No Jews. Just Right."
Canadian Human Rights Tribunal ruled that
Richard Warman's hate posts on VNN was "both
disappointing and disturbing."
- Screen print of the Vanguard News Network
Transcripts of Warman admitting to pretending to be a woman named: Lucie
using the alias Axetogrind:
MS SHI [Winnicki's Lawyer]: Thank you.
And, in fact, you did more than that, you started responding to
some of Mr. Winnicki's messages by posing under an alias, Axetogrind;
correct?
MR. WARMAN: I believe they're fairly
limited in number, but, yes.
In the Canadian
Human Rights Tribunal Transcripts in the matter of Richard
Warman vs. Tomasz Winnicki.
(File Number: T1021/0205, Date: 2005/10/18) On Page
434 of the transcript, Mr. Warman admitted to posting on the VNN
Forum using the name “Axetogrind”
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Some of Richard Warman's posts to
VNNForum as "Lucie" Alias: Axetogrind
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On 07-15-2004, Richard
Warman, using the name “Axetogrind” posted the following
message on the VNN Forum in a thread entitled “adl jews spew
about NSM”:
I
agree. Keep up the good work Commander Schoep! 88
Mr. Warman's comment was posted
below a picture of man holding a swastika flag with the words
"National Socialist
Movement" (NAZI) and another man holding a sign that
reads "WHITE REVOLUTION, The Only
Solution"
Mr. Warman is his Canadian Human Rights
Complaint against Glenn Bahr
wrote the following in regards to the meaning of "88":
In neo-Nazi parlance, the number 88
symbolizes "HH" or short for Heil Hitler as H
is the 8 th letter of the alphabet.
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| 2 |
On 05-31-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
That's funny and I totaly agree. People
complain here about other WNs wearing uniforms and then suck up
to someone who admits he stole money from WNs to go golf, gamble
and then spend his time in the gym. Fak I'm
a woman and I could bench press 350 if
other people paid my bills and I hung out at the gym all day~!
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| 3 |
On 08-17-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
And you Spandau Ballet, what's wrong with
being a Cosmonaut? At least they blow up with less frequency
than some people's astronauts. Stupid Yanks.
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| 4 |
On 06-22-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
Nah, BNP stands for British Nob Party I lived
in Britain for a while and they were the losers who C18 and
National Front didnt want around. They are soft and will
eventually fall away like the other poseurs.
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| 5 |
On 05-28-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
Speaking of divided on the BNP, has anyone
noticed how fat Griffin is getting? Tell me he hasn't been
eating the donations? Bad Griffin, no donut, and back to your
farmwork until you're whipped into shape!
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| 6 |
On 05-31-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
Oh yeah!@ Well what greta things has he done
lately or did he just do your sister Greta and that's all it
takes to make you happy? Geez, lighten up McFly, it was a joke!
Even the Scots know what those are don't they btw, the Glasgow
Rangers suck!@
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| 7 |
On 06-02-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
oh man, why did you change your signature for
a pic of fatboy 3? St. Andrew flag was okay, but thats just
provocation...
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| 8 |
On 08-17-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
Hey Disciple and Brighton BNP, what's wrong
with Bragg saying we shouldn't believe everything our country
tells us to? What's wrong with him saying what he thinks? He may
be a socialist, but what are you guys, some kind of fascists?
And besides, who doesn't think Holst's the Planets kicks ass?
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| 9 |
On 12-15-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
Okay a lot of people may not like this but
lets face it shall we - Griffin and his barrister crap of trying
to turn the BNP posh was doomed from the start - lets accept
that the BNP is not the Monday club or anything else that has
blue blood running in its veins - it is what it was supposed to
be - British nationalism of the working class!
Gentleman farmer Griffin may think he can eat
his way through the donations but how long should he be left at
the trough by rank and file members???
The CPS has done us a favour - WNs should be
proud of what we are instead of trying to be pushed to be
something we're not!
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| 10 |
On 08-24-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
He's just mad because Thexder-buddy there got
to be referred to as a "Senior Member" and no one
wants to talk about him... That and his name is Otto.
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| 11 |
On 06-22-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
If you want a prime example of not enough work
turning you fat you should look at the guy who is leading the
BNP. He used to be thin but now he has too many flunkys and has
gotten really fat. He should go back to working on the farm
before people mistake him for a piggy!
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| 12 |
On 01-05-2005, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
Jeezus good luck Thexder I just read this on a
commie website - let us know how it goes!
http://www.recomnetwork.org/article...5/0618235.shtml
January 4, 2005
Hate Complaint Against London Man Referred to
Tribunal
The Canadian Human Rights Commission (CHRC)
has referred two hate propaganda complaints for hearing to the
Canadian Human Rights Tribunal. The complaints were filed by
Ottawa lawyer Richard Warman against London-resident Tomasz
Winnicki.
The original complaint filed in
September of 2003 concerned hate propaganda attacking the
Christian, Jewish, black, and homosexual communities posted by
Winnicki onto his Mom's personal Bell Sympatico website, the
website forum of London-based group the Northern Alliance, and
onto US neo-Nazi forum VNN.
Retaliating against individuals who have filed
human rights complaints constitutes a separate offence under the
Canadian Human Rights Act. The CHRC also referred a subsequent
retaliation complaint against Winnicki to the Tribunal for
hearing after he posted material on the Internet attacking
Warman for having filed his original complaint.
If the complaints are upheld, Winnicki may
face a permanent cease and desist order enforceable by contempt
of court proceedings, and/or fines and damages. Tribunal hearing
dates are anticipated in late spring or early summer.
[Note, this is Richard Warman
posting about the complaint HE files against Mr. Winnicki]
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| 13 |
On 08-21-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
I agree taht sounds like a great idea - can
they take what they dish out? Maybe file a human rights
complaint against them for prosecuting you because your Polish?
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| 14 |
On 09-17-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
So what, you're going to keep us in suspense?
[Note: Warman is asking Mr.
Winnicki (who Warman filed a CHRC complaint against) to
"...hear Winnicki's side of the story"]
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| 15 |
On 08-21-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
That's funny! anyone know what ever did happen
between Di Snivita and Von Bluvens?
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| 16 |
On 08-21-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
Good research Disciples! So, which Disciple
are you?
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| 17 |
On 08-11-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
From the facts it looks like that closet door
is pretty wide open to me. No one in their right mind would
trust Griffin in the first place. I lived in the UK for a while
and everyone I talked to thought he was a pompous ass. If this
is the best the BNP can do I'd vote UKIP!
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| 18 |
On 05-30-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
Hi i'm interested in also setting up a website
and had looked at iron radio but am worried now with your
problems.
WHo did you eventually end up going with? I'm
also looking to set up a links page on my site once i get it
going so some new blood would be great if you guys want to plug
your sites can you let me know what the URLs are?
Thanks!
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| 19 |
On 11-22-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
Hey, I just finished reading "White Man's
Bible" and I never knew it before but Klassen seems to be
kind of a whole foods Nazi warmed over. Does anybody else find
that his he's kind of a granola nazi or should I keep going and
read some of his other books and hope he gets relevant? If so
can you recommend any of his books in particular? Thanks!
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| 20 |
On 11-25-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
Do you think that's because he just keeps
repeating himself over and over again or do you feel ther'e s
another reason? If he REALLLY was a granola nazi couldn't he
have just made his point in a coupla pages and then save teh
trees?
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| 21 |
On 12-04-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
I hate to be a stickler for detail, but is it
just me or does the Rev. Mitchell Irwin look a little...
off-color... to anyone else?
Maybe it's just my computer...
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| 22 |
On 10-22-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
PM Hale hasn't even finished his fight, but
already we've seen many 'leader's' in the Church run for the
exit. With friends like these...
www.onepeoplesproject.com/lampman.pdf
We should all keep our fingers crossed for PM
Hale on the 15th.
[Note: Richard Warman filed a
complaint against Liz Lampman, the complaint was mediated,
and then Mr. Warman posted Liz Lampman's PRIVATE letter to the
CHRC]
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| 23 |
On 06-02-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
This is the first I've seen of this thread but
I'll drop some cash in an envelope tonight. Don't have much but
if we cant stand up with our prisoners of war then no one will.
I got half way through white man's bible and still intend to
ifnish it but when to find the time...
Georgie/Big Brother there are others here from
Canada besides Rob and I???? F-in eh! Are you far and if not a
road trip may b ein order - who else beat us to it!!!?
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| 24 |
On 06-02-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
I forgot to ask, howd the date go big fella?
[Note: Keep in mind Mr. Warman
is asking this question to a male, while he is pretending to be a
FEMALE!]
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| 25 |
On 05-31-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
Ron Ron Ron, you really are a downer you know
that? Let me rephrase my first post by saying that if people
spent half the time building fellow WNs up rather than tearing
them down we'd be dangerous. Unless your goal is to tear people
down in which case go join Hillel or something and go to
town!@
NSM/NA/WR/EURO/ESS/ whatever, lets quit
beeyatching at each other. We'll invite you to our first meeting
here in Canada and we'll work it out over a beer. Except we
drink real beer so you can only have one!@
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| 26 |
On 06-01-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
What did I tell you about using the word
"assclown" and other profanity?
Go wash your mouth out with soap this instant.
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| 27 |
On 05-27-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
I've been around long enough to know that when
people start talking sh-t about other people in the movement
(and especially in public) it's usually because a)they're
inadquate and want to bring everyone down to their level, or b)
they might be just naive and not realize the harm this does to
ALL of us.
Maybe the NSM isn't for you. Maybe the NA
isn't for you. Maybe the Klan isn't for you. Maybe I'm not for
you, but that's no reason to start draggin people through the
mud to make yourself feel better about you.
Commander Schoep is doing the best he can for
the NSM and if we can help him we should and if not, we should
put all of our energy into our own groups and stop tearing down
other people.
That's my $.o2
Lucie
[Note: Commander Schoep is a
Nazi, who wears Nazi uniforms. The NSM stands for: National
Socialist Movemet]
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On 05-28-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
How about if I just correct you and the potty
mouth that followed you that real gentlemen (esp WNs trying to
make a good first impression on other people) don't use
gratuitous obscenities? Don't laugh, I'm serious - if we talk
like neandrathals, people will think we are.
ANd that brings me to your second point about
how we dress. You don't like uniforms? Don't wear one. A time
and a place for everything and none of the NS people that I know
go to school, job, church, or most other places wearing NS dress
uniforms just like most people in the military don't usually go
to town dressed in camo.
If uniforms give poeple a sense of common bond
for meetings and rallies then that's great. If WNs spent half
the time building each other up that we do tearing each other
down we'd be dangerous.
Lucie
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| 29 |
On 06-21-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
I was away for a few weeks and now I can't
believe that the trolls still haven't burned through their usual
30 second attention span.
Let's review - don't like the NSM? Get lost
and work on your own group.
Grow up, move on, maybe even come out to the
demo but like Comm. Schoep says that would tear you away from
slagging people off on the internet so we probably won't see you
there.
If I check back in another month the eedjits
will probably still be circle jerking with themselves.
We're starting to organize in Canada, get off
high chair and go do some of your own.
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On 10-05-2005, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
FEDERAL COURT OF CANADA
Date 20051004
Docket T-1309-05
Ottawa, Ontario, October 4th, 2005
IN THE MATTER OF PROCEEDINGS BEFORE THE
CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS TRIBUNAL RE: RICHARD WARMAN and TOMASZ
WINNICKI and THE CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION
Between:
CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION
APPLICANT
And TOMASZ WINNICKI RESPONDENT
ORDER
Upon originating motion filed on July 27, 2005
on behalf of the Applicant, Canadian Human Rights
Commission,
Upon hearing submissions of counsel for the
Applicant on August 4th, 2005;
Upon considering the Motion Record and the
written argument of the Applicant;
THIS COURT ORDERS THAT the interlocutory
injunction is granted, pending a final decision by the Canadian
Human Rights Tribunal in proceedings before it. As a result, the
Respondent, Tomasz Winnicki, is restrained from communicating,
by means of the Internet, messages that are likely to expose
persons to hatred or contempt by reason of race, national or
ethnic origin, colour or religion, contrary to section 13(1) of
the Canadian Human Rights Act.
REASONS TO FOLLOW.
Yves de Montigny
Judge
[Note: Warman posted this to
VNN and many people responded]
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On 06-02-2004, Richard Warman, using
the name “Axetogrind” posted the following message on the VNN
Forum
Some of us WN women
are here but some of us also dont think much of people asking if
we're of "breeding age". Doesnt that hurt your
knuckles when they drag like that?
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